Rogue talents and abilities in WoW Forever

Spec summariesCombat Assassination / Subtlety

0abilities added
9talents added(1 from SoD)
38reworked talents
9races (2 new)

For your Rogue

How is it different from Classic Era?

What changed for the Rogue

Assassination

15 talents in Classic Era, 17 in Forever

2 new14 changed1 unchanged

Talents added

Mutilate (ES: Mutilar)
Venom (ES: Veneno)

Combat

19 talents in Classic Era, 17 in Forever

2 new11 changed4 unchanged4 gone

Talents added

Puncturing Wounds (ES: Heridas punzantes)
Flawless Execution (ES: Ejecución impecable)

Subtlety

17 talents in Classic Era, 19 in Forever

4 new1 from SoD13 changed1 unchanged3 gone

Talents added

Dirty Tricks (ES: Jugarretas)
Improved Distract (ES: Distraer mejorado)
Quietus
Cutthroat (ES: Degollador)SoD
Thousand Cuts (ES: Mil cortes)

Before and now

Classic Era talents removedTalent trees7 talentsGone from the trees

What changed while the beta ran?

Changed during the beta

Every change to the Rogue’s abilities and talents from one beta build to the next, newest first, as the build pages word them.

Build 70170Oct 1, 20263 changes

Expose Armor (ES: Exponer armadura)

Rogue

In game
Before Finishing move that exposes the target for 30 sec, reducing armor per combo point: 1 point: -450 armor 2 points: -900 armor 3 points: -1350 armor 4 points: -1800 armor 5 points: -2250 armor
Now Finishing move that exposes the target for 30 sec, reducing Armor per combo point: 1 point: -450 Armor 2 points: -900 Armor 3 points: -1350 Armor 4 points: -1800 Armor 5 points: -2250 Armor

Details

On the Rogue page

Setup (ES: Establecer)

Rogue · Talent

No longer can trigger an extra effect

Details

In game
Before Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging an attack or fully resisting a spell.
Now Gives you a 100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

On the Rogue page

Venom (ES: Veneno)

Rogue · Talent

In game
Before Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point: 9 seconds 2 points: 12 seconds 3 points: 15 seconds 4 points: 18 seconds 5 points: 21 seconds
Now Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point: 9 sec 2 points: 12 sec 3 points: 15 sec 4 points: 18 sec 5 points: 21 sec

Details

On the Rogue page

Where do your 51 points go?

Talent trees

51 points, one per level from 10 to 60; each row needs 5 more points in its tree. Colored gems mark what changed since Classic Era.

53 talents · 51 points

Rogue51 talent points

Assassination (ES: Asesinato)

17 talents2 new14 changed

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Combat (ES: Combate)

17 talents2 new11 changed

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Subtlety (ES: Sutileza)

19 talents4 new1 SoD13 changed

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All Rogue talents as a list53

Every talent with the text of each rank, requirements and what changed since Classic Era. Values for a level 60 character without gear.

Assassination (ES: Asesinato)

Improved Gouge (ES: Incapacitación mejorada)

Row 1 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

3 ranks

Increases the duration of your Gouge ability by 0.5/1/1.5 sec.

moved from Combat · reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 1, 3 ranks

Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 0.5 sec.

Rank 3 (max): Increases the effect duration of your Gouge ability by 1.5 sec.

Remorseless Attacks (ES: Ataques implacables)

Row 1 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

2 ranks

After killing a non-trivial enemy, gives you a 20/40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Mutilate, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.

reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 1, 2 ranks

After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you a 20% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.

Rank 2 (max): After killing an opponent that yields experience or honor, gives you a 40% increased critical strike chance on your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Ghostly Strike. Lasts 20 sec.

Malice (ES: Maldad)

Row 1 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

5 ranks

Increases your critical strike chance with all attacks and Poisons by 1/2/3/4/5%.

reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 1, 5 ranks

Increases your critical strike chance by 1%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases your critical strike chance by 5%.

Ruthlessness (ES: Crueldad)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Assassination Talents

3 ranks

Gives your finishing moves a 20/40/60% chance to add a Combo Point to your target.

reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 2, 3 ranks

Gives your finishing moves a 20% chance to add a combo point to your target.

Rank 3 (max): Gives your finishing moves a 60% chance to add a combo point to your target.

Murder (ES: Asesinar)

Row 2 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Assassination Talents

2 ranks

Increases all damage dealt by 2/4% against Humanoid and Giant targets.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 2, 2 ranks

Increases all damage caused against Humanoid, Giant, Beast and Dragonkin targets by 1%.

Rank 2 (max): Increases all damage caused against Humanoid, Giant, Beast and Dragonkin targets by 2%.

Improved Slice and Dice (ES: Hacer picadillo mejorado)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Unchanged

Requires 5 points in Assassination Talents

3 ranks

Increases the duration of your Slice and Dice ability by 15/30/45%.

Relentless Strikes (ES: Golpes despiadados)

Row 3 · 1 rank · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Assassination Talents

Rank 1/1
Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per Combo Point to restore 25 Energy.

reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 3, 1 rank

Your finishing moves have a 20% chance per combo point to restore 25 energy.

Improved Expose Armor (ES: Exponer armadura mejorado)

Row 3 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Assassination Talents

Rank 1/2
Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 5, and refunds 1 Combo Point when cast with 5 Combo Points.
Rank 2/2
Reduces the Energy cost of your Expose Armor ability by 10, and refunds 2 Combo Points when cast with 5 Combo Points.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 3, 2 ranks

Increases the armor reduced by your Expose Armor ability by 25%.

Rank 2 (max): Increases the armor reduced by your Expose Armor ability by 50%.

Lethality (ES: Letalidad)

Row 3 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Assassination TalentsRequires 5 points in Malice

5 ranks

Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Mutilate, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 4/8/12/16/20%.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 3, 5 ranks

Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 6%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases the critical strike damage bonus of your Sinister Strike, Gouge, Backstab, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities by 30%.

Vile Poisons (ES: Venenos inmundos)

Row 4 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Assassination Talents

5 ranks

Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 4/8/12/16/20% and gives your poisons an additional 8/16/24/32/40% chance to resist dispel effects.

reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 4, 5 ranks

Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 4% and gives your poisons an additional 8% chance to resist dispel effects.

Rank 5 (max): Increases the damage dealt by your poisons by 20% and gives your poisons an additional 40% chance to resist dispel effects.

Cold Blood (ES: Sangre fría)

Row 4 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Assassination Talents

Rank 1/1
When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, Eviscerate, or Mutilate by 100%.

row 5 → row 4 · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 5, 1 rank

When activated, increases the critical strike chance of your next Sinister Strike, Backstab, Ambush, or Eviscerate by 100%.

Improved Poisons (ES: Venenos mejorados)

Row 4 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Assassination Talents

5 ranks

Increases the chance to apply Poisons to your target by 2/4/6/8/10%, and gives Poison applications a 10/20/30/40/50% chance to not consume a charge.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 4, 5 ranks

Increases the chance to apply poisons to your target by 2%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases the chance to apply poisons to your target by 10%.

Vigor

Row 5 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 20 points in Assassination Talents

2 ranks

Increases your maximum Energy by 5/10.

row 7 → row 5 · ranks: 1 → 2

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 7, 1 rank

Increases your maximum Energy by 10.

Mutilate (ES: Mutilar)

Row 5 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ≠ A second source (older build) shows other numbers for this talent.

New

Requires 20 points in Assassination Talents

Rank 1/1
Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.

New talent, based on a Season of Discovery rune

Improved Kidney Shot (ES: Golpe a los riñones mejorado)

Row 5 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 20 points in Assassination Talents

2 ranks

Enemies Stunned by your Kidney Shot ability take 5/10% increased damage from your poisons and attacks.

ranks: 3 → 2 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 5, 3 ranks

While affected by your Kidney Shot ability, the target receives an additional 3% damage from all sources.

Rank 3 (max): While affected by your Kidney Shot ability, the target receives an additional 9% damage from all sources.

Seal Fate (ES: Sello del destino)

Row 6 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 25 points in Assassination Talents

5 ranks

Your critical strikes from abilities that add Combo Points have a 20/40/60/80/100% chance to add an additional Combo Point.

reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 6, 5 ranks

Your critical strikes from abilities that add combo points have a 20% chance to add an additional combo point.

Rank 5 (max): Your critical strikes from abilities that add combo points have a 100% chance to add an additional combo point.

Venom (ES: Veneno)

Row 7 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 30 points in Assassination TalentsRequires 1 point in Mutilate

Rank 1/1
Finishing move that increases the damage of your Poisons by 30% and your chance to apply Poisons by 10%. Lasts longer per combo point: 1 point: 9 sec 2 points: 12 sec 3 points: 15 sec 4 points: 18 sec 5 points: 21 sec

Combat (ES: Combate)

Improved Eviscerate (ES: Eviscerar mejorado)

Row 1 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

3 ranks

Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 7/13/20%.

moved from Assassination · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Assassination, row 1, 3 ranks

Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 5%.

Rank 3 (max): Increases the damage done by your Eviscerate ability by 15%.

Improved Sinister Strike (ES: Golpe siniestro mejorado)

Row 1 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Unchanged

2 ranks

Reduces the Energy cost of your Sinister Strike ability by 3/5.

Lightning Reflexes (ES: Reflejos de relámpago)

Row 1 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Unchanged

5 ranks

Increases your Dodge chance by 1/2/3/4/5%.

Puncturing Wounds (ES: Heridas punzantes)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 5 points in Combat Talents

3 ranks

Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab by 10/20/30% and your Mutilate by 5/10/15%, and gives Backstab a 15/30/45% chance to add an additional Combo Point.

Deflection (ES: Desvío)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Combat Talents

3 ranks

Increases your Parry chance by 2/4/6%.

ranks: 5 → 3 · different values

In Classic Era · Combat, row 2, 5 ranks

Increases your Parry chance by 1%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases your Parry chance by 5%.

Precision (ES: Precisión)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Combat Talents

3 ranks

Improves your chance to hit by 1/2/3%.

ranks: 5 → 3 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 2, 5 ranks

Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 1%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases your chance to hit with melee weapons by 5%.

Endurance (ES: Robustez)

Row 3 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Combat Talents

2 ranks

Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 30/60%.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 3, 2 ranks

Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 45 sec.

Rank 2 (max): Reduces the cooldown of your Sprint and Evasion abilities by 1.5 min.

Riposte (ES: Estocada)

Row 3 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Unchanged

Requires 10 points in Combat TalentsRequires 3 points in Deflection

Rank 1/1
A strike that becomes active after parrying an opponent's attack. This attack deals 150% weapon damage and disarms the target for 6 sec.

Improved Sprint (ES: Correr mejorado)

Row 3 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Combat Talents

2 ranks

Gives a 50/100% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.

reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 3, 2 ranks

Gives a 50% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.

Rank 2 (max): Gives a 100% chance to remove all movement impairing effects when you activate your Sprint ability.

Improved Kick (ES: Patada mejorada)

Row 4 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Combat Talents

2 ranks

Gives your Kick ability a 50/100% chance to Silence the target for 2 sec.

reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 4, 2 ranks

Gives your Kick ability a 50% chance to silence the target for 2 sec.

Rank 2 (max): Gives your Kick ability a 100% chance to silence the target for 2 sec.

Flawless Execution (ES: Ejecución impecable)

Row 4 · 1 rank · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 15 points in Combat Talents

Rank 1/1
Reduces the Energy cost of your Eviscerate ability by 10.

Dual Wield Specialization (ES: Especialización en doble empuñadura)

Row 4 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Combat TalentsRequires 3 points in Precision

5 ranks

Increases the damage done by your off-hand weapon by 5/10/15/20/25%.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 4, 5 ranks

Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 10%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases the damage done by your offhand weapon by 50%.

Blade Flurry (ES: Ráfaga con espada)

Row 5 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 20 points in Combat Talents

Rank 1/1
Increases your melee attack speed by 20% and your melee attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.

reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 5, 1 rank

Increases your attack speed by 20%. In addition, attacks strike an additional nearby opponent. Lasts 15 sec.

Hack and Slash (ES: Cortar y rebanar)

Row 5 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 20 points in Combat Talents

5 ranks

Gives your melee weapon attacks a benefit depending on the weapon. Axe/Sword: Your successful melee attacks have a 1/2/3/4/5% chance to trigger an extra attack on the target. Dagger/Fist: Increases your critical strike chance by 1/2/3/4/5%. Mace: Your attacks ignore 3/6/9/12/15% of your target's armor.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Sword Specialization · Combat, row 5, 5 ranks

Gives you a 1% chance to get an extra attack on the same target after dealing damage with your Sword.

Rank 5 (max): Gives you a 5% chance to get an extra attack on the same target after dealing damage with your Sword.

Weapon Expertise (ES: Experiencia con armas)

Row 6 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 25 points in Combat TalentsRequires 1 point in Blade Flurry

2 ranks

Reduces the chance for your attacks to be Dodged or Parried by 1/2%.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 6, 2 ranks

Increases your skill with Sword, Fist and Dagger weapons by 3.

Rank 2 (max): Increases your skill with Sword, Fist and Dagger weapons by 5.

Aggression (ES: Agresión)

Row 6 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 25 points in Combat Talents

3 ranks

Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike, Backstab, and Eviscerate abilities by 2/4/6%.

reworded

In Classic Era · Combat, row 6, 3 ranks

Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike and Eviscerate abilities by 2%.

Rank 3 (max): Increases the damage of your Sinister Strike and Eviscerate abilities by 6%.

Adrenaline Rush (ES: Subidón de adrenalina)

Row 7 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Unchanged

Requires 30 points in Combat Talents

Rank 1/1
Increases your Energy regeneration rate by 100% for 15 sec.

Subtlety (ES: Sutileza)

Camouflage (ES: Camuflaje)

Row 1 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

5 ranks

Reduces your speed penalty from your Stealth ability by 3/6/9/12/15% and reduces its cooldown by 2/3/4/5/6 sec.

row 2 → row 1 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 2, 5 ranks

Increases your speed while stealthed by 3% and reduces the cooldown of your Stealth ability by 1 sec.

Rank 5 (max): Increases your speed while stealthed by 15% and reduces the cooldown of your Stealth ability by 5 sec.

Master of Deception (ES: Maestro de la decepción)

Row 1 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Rank 1/3
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 1 level higher.
Rank 2/3
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 2 levels higher.
Rank 3/3
Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode as if you were 3 levels higher.

ranks: 5 → 3 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 1, 5 ranks

Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode.

Rank 5 (max): Reduces the chance enemies have to detect you while in Stealth mode. More effective than Master of Deception (Rank 4).

Opportunity (ES: Oportunidad)

Row 1 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

2 ranks

Increases the damage dealt by your Backstab, Garrote, Ambush, and Mutilate abilities by 5/10%.

ranks: 5 → 2 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 1, 5 ranks

Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush abilities by 4%.

Rank 5 (max): Increases the damage dealt when striking from behind with your Backstab, Garrote, or Ambush abilities by 20%.

Setup (ES: Establecer)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Subtlety Talents

3 ranks

Gives you a 33/67/100% chance to add a Combo Point to your target after Dodging one of their attacks or fully resisting one of their spells.

row 4 → row 2 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 4, 3 ranks

Gives you a 15% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

Rank 3 (max): Gives you a 45% chance to add a combo point to your target after dodging their attack or fully resisting one of their spells.

Elusiveness (ES: Elusión)

Row 2 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Subtlety Talents

2 ranks

Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 45/90 sec.

different values

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 2, 2 ranks

Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 45 sec.

Rank 2 (max): Reduces the cooldown of your Vanish and Blind abilities by 1.5 min.

Dirty Tricks (ES: Jugarretas)

Row 2 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 5 points in Subtlety Talents

2 ranks

Reduces the Energy cost of your Sap and Blind abilities by 25/50%.

Improved Ambush (ES: Emboscada mejorada)

Row 2 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 5 points in Subtlety Talents

3 ranks

Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 15/30/45%.

row 3 → row 2

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 3, 3 ranks

Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 15%.

Rank 3 (max): Increases the critical strike chance of your Ambush ability by 45%.

Initiative (ES: Iniciativa)

Row 3 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Subtlety Talents

3 ranks

Gives you a 33/67/100% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

different values

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 3, 3 ranks

Gives you a 25% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

Rank 3 (max): Gives you a 75% chance to add an additional combo point to your target when using your Ambush, Garrote, or Cheap Shot ability.

Ghostly Strike (ES: Golpe fantasmal)

Row 3 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 10 points in Subtlety Talents

Rank 1/1
A strike that deals 125% (180% if a Dagger is equipped in your Main Hand) weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 3, 1 rank

A strike that deals 125% weapon damage and increases your chance to dodge by 15% for 7 sec. Awards 1 combo point.

Improved Distract (ES: Distraer mejorado)

Row 3 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 10 points in Subtlety Talents

Rank 1/2
Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 3 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 1 level lower.
Rank 2/2
Increases the radius of your Distract ability by 5 yds, and further reduces the Stealth detection of distracted enemies as though they were an additional 2 levels lower.

Heightened Senses (ES: Sentidos agudizados)

Row 4 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Subtlety Talents

Rank 1/2
Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 1 level higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 2%.
Rank 2/2
Increases your Stealth detection as if you were 3 levels higher and reduces your chance to be hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%.

row 5 → row 4 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 5, 2 ranks

Increases your Stealth detection and reduces the chance you are hit by spells and ranged attacks by 2%.

Rank 2 (max): Increases your Stealth detection and reduces the chance you are hit by spells and ranged attacks by 4%. More effective than Heightened Senses (Rank 1).

Premeditation (ES: Premeditación)

Row 4 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Subtlety Talents

Rank 1/1
Adds 2 Combo Points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 20 sec or the combo points are lost.

row 7 → row 4 · different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 7, 1 rank

When used, adds 2 combo points to your target. You must add to or use those combo points within 10 sec or the combo points are lost.

Serrated Blades (ES: Espadas dentadas)

Row 4 · 3 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 15 points in Subtlety Talents

3 ranks

Causes your attacks to ignore 3/6/9% of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 10/20/30%.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 4, 3 ranks

Causes your attacks to ignore 100 of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 10%. The amount of Armor reduced increases with your level.

Rank 3 (max): Causes your attacks to ignore 300 of your target's Armor and increases the damage dealt by your Rupture ability by 30%. The amount of Armor reduced increases with your level.

Dirty Deeds (ES: Trabajos sucios)

Row 5 · 2 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 20 points in Subtlety Talents

2 ranks

Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 10/20, and your Garrote ability no longer requires you to be behind your target.

reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 5, 2 ranks

Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 10.

Rank 2 (max): Reduces the Energy cost of your Cheap Shot and Garrote abilities by 20.

Preparation (ES: Preparación)

Row 5 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Unchanged

Requires 20 points in Subtlety Talents

Rank 1/1
When activated, this ability immediately finishes the cooldown on your other Rogue abilities.

Hemorrhage (ES: Hemorragia)

Row 5 · 1 rank · Grants an ability · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

Changed

Requires 20 points in Subtlety TalentsRequires 3 points in Serrated Blades

Rank 1/1
An instant strike that deals 100% weapon damage (145% if a Dagger is equipped) and causes the target to take 15% increased Rupture damage from the Rogue. Lasts 15 sec. Awards 1 Combo Point.

different values · reworded

In Classic Era · Subtlety, row 5, 1 rank

An instant strike that damages the opponent and causes the target to hemorrhage, increasing any Physical damage dealt to the target by up to 3. Lasts 30 charges or 15 sec. Awards 1 combo point.

Quietus

Row 6 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 25 points in Subtlety TalentsRequires 2 points in Dirty Deeds

5 ranks

Your Sinister Strike, Ghostly Strike, and Hemorrhage abilities cause 2/4/6/8/10% more damage against targets below 35% health.

Cutthroat (ES: Degollador)

Row 6 · 5 ranks · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

SoD

Requires 25 points in Subtlety Talents

5 ranks

Your Backstab has a 3/6/9/12/15% chance to cause your next Ambush within 10 sec to not require Stealth.

Comes from Season of Discovery

Thousand Cuts (ES: Mil cortes)

Row 7 · 1 rank · Passive Talent · ✓ Matches a second, independent source.

New

Requires 30 points in Subtlety TalentsRequires 1 point in Preparation

Rank 1/1
When your Rupture ability deals periodic damage, the Energy cost of your next Hemorrhage or Backstab ability within 10 sec is reduced by 3, stacking up to 5 times.

Classic Era talents gone from the trees7

Improved Backstab (ES: Puñalada mejorada)Combat, row 2, 3 ranks
Increases the critical strike chance of your Backstab ability by 30%.
Dagger Specialization (ES: Especialización en dagas)Combat, row 4, 5 ranks
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Daggers by 5%.
Fist Weapon Specialization (ES: Especialización en armas de puño)Combat, row 5, 5 ranks
Increases your chance to get a critical strike with Fist Weapons by 5%.
Mace Specialization (ES: Especialización con mazas)Combat, row 5, 5 ranks
Increases your skill with Maces by 5, and gives you a 6% chance to stun your target for 3 sec with a mace.
Sleight of Hand (ES: Prestidigitación)Subtlety, row 2, 2 ranks
Reduces the chance you are critically hit by melee and ranged attacks by 2% and increases the threat reduction of your Feint ability by 20%.
Improved Sap (ES: Zapar mejorado)Subtlety, row 4, 3 ranks
Gives you a 90% chance to return to stealth mode after using your Sap ability.
Deadliness (ES: Letalidad)Subtlety, row 6, 5 ranks
Increases your Attack Power by 10%.

What do you learn, and when?

Abilities level by level

Everything the Rogue learns from level 1 to 60, one spellbook page per ten levels. Hover or tap a spell to read its tooltip. 58 abilities · 124 ranks

Training 1–60: 200gClassicThe sum of the prices Classic’s trainers asked (cMaNGOS records) for the 101 of these 124 ranks that Classic taught at the same level. New ranks, ranks moved to another level and ranks from books, quests or talents have no Classic price; Forever’s own prices are on its servers.How we use itEvery rank with its numbers ↓

Levels 1–10

Level 1

Level 4

Level 6

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Level 8

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Level 10

First talent point

Levels 11–20

Level 12

Higher ranks

Level 14

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Level 15

Talent row 2 reachable

Level 16

Higher ranks

Level 18

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Level 20

Talent row 3 reachable

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Levels 21–30

Level 22

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Level 24

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Level 25

Talent row 4 reachable

Level 26

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Level 28

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Level 30

Talent row 5 reachable

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Levels 31–40

Level 32

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Level 34

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Level 35

Talent row 6 reachable

Level 36

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Level 38

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Level 40

Final talent of a tree reachable

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Levels 41–50

Level 42

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Level 44

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Level 46

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Level 48

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Level 50

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Levels 51–60

Level 52

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Level 54

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Level 56

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Level 58

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Level 60

Higher ranks

Every rank, with its numbers

Each rank at the level you learn it, as the game files give it: cost, amount, cast, cooldown, range and the coefficient of spell power or attack power. ClassicTraining prices are Classic’s (cMaNGOS trainer records): Forever’s trainers are on its servers and may charge otherwise.How we use it

Eviscerate9 ranks · 1–60

Ranks of Eviscerate
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Range	Coefficient	Training
1	1	35 Energy	1–5	Melee Range	spell power 100%	—
2	8	35 Energy	3–11	Melee Range	spell power 100%	2s
3	16	35 Energy	6–20	Melee Range	spell power 100%	18s
4	24	35 Energy	10–30	Melee Range	spell power 100%	50s
5	32	35 Energy	15–45	Melee Range	spell power 100%	1g 20s
6	40	35 Energy	22–66	Melee Range	spell power 100%	2g
7	48	35 Energy	34–102	Melee Range	spell power 100%	3g 30s
8	56	35 Energy	48–144	Melee Range	spell power 100%	5g
9	60	35 Energy	54–162	Melee Range	spell power 100%	—

Sinister Strike8 ranks · 1–54

Ranks of Sinister Strike
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Range	Training
1	1	45 Energy	weapon + 3	Melee Range	—
2	6	45 Energy	weapon + 6	Melee Range	1s
3	14	45 Energy	weapon + 10	Melee Range	12s
4	22	45 Energy	weapon + 15	Melee Range	40s
5	30	45 Energy	weapon + 22	Melee Range	1g
6	38	45 Energy	weapon + 33	Melee Range	1g 80s
7	46	45 Energy	weapon + 52	Melee Range	3g 10s
8	54	45 Energy	weapon + 68	Melee Range	4g 80s

Stealth4 ranks · 1–60

Ranks of Stealth
Rank	Level	Cooldown	Training
1	1	10 sec	10c
2	20	10 sec	30s
3	40	10 sec	2g
4	60	10 sec	5g 40s

Backstab9 ranks · 4–60

Ranks of Backstab
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Range	Training
1	4	60 Energy	weapon + 10	Melee Range	1s
2	12	60 Energy	weapon + 20	Melee Range	8s
3	20	60 Energy	weapon + 32	Melee Range	30s
4	28	60 Energy	weapon + 46	Melee Range	80s
5	36	60 Energy	weapon + 60	Melee Range	1g 60s
6	44	60 Energy	weapon + 90	Melee Range	2g 90s
7	52	60 Energy	weapon + 110	Melee Range	4g 60s
8	60	60 Energy	weapon + 140	Melee Range	5g 40s
9	60	60 Energy	weapon + 150	Melee Range	—

Gouge5 ranks · 6–60

Ranks of Gouge
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Cooldown	Range	Coefficient	Training
1	6	45 Energy	10	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	1s
2	18	45 Energy	20	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	29s
3	32	45 Energy	32	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	1g 20s
4	46	45 Energy	55	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	3g 10s
5	60	45 Energy	75	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	5g 40s

Sap3 ranks · 10–48

Ranks of Sap
Rank	Level	Cost	Range	Training
1	10	65 Energy	Melee Range	3s
2	28	65 Energy	Melee Range	80s
3	48	65 Energy	Melee Range	3g 30s

Slice and Dice2 ranks · 10–42

Ranks of Slice and Dice
Rank	Level	Cost	Range	Training
1	10	25 Energy	100 yd	3s
2	42	25 Energy	100 yd	2g 70s

Sprint3 ranks · 10–58

Ranks of Sprint
Rank	Level	Cooldown	Training
1	10	5 min	3s
2	34	5 min	1g 40s
3	58	5 min	5g 20s

Kick4 ranks · 12–58

Ranks of Kick
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Cooldown	Range	Coefficient	Training
1	12	25 Energy	15	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	8s
2	26	25 Energy	30	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	60s
3	42	25 Energy	45	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	2g 70s
4	58	25 Energy	80	10 sec	Melee Range	spell power 100%	5g 20s

Expose Armor5 ranks · 14–56

Ranks of Expose Armor
Rank	Level	Cost	Range	Training
1	14	25 Energy	Melee Range	12s
2	26	25 Energy	Melee Range	60s
3	36	25 Energy	Melee Range	1g 60s
4	46	25 Energy	Melee Range	3g 10s
5	56	25 Energy	Melee Range	5g

Garrote6 ranks · 14–54

Ranks of Garrote
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Range	Training
1	14	50 Energy	144 over 18 sec	Melee Range	12s
2	22	50 Energy	204 over 18 sec	Melee Range	40s
3	30	50 Energy	282 over 18 sec	Melee Range	1g
4	38	50 Energy	354 over 18 sec	Melee Range	1g 80s
5	46	50 Energy	444 over 18 sec	Melee Range	3g 10s
6	54	50 Energy	552 over 18 sec	Melee Range	4g 80s

Feint5 ranks · 16–60

Ranks of Feint
Rank	Level	Cost	Cooldown	Range	Training
1	16	20 Energy	10 sec	Melee Range	18s
2	28	20 Energy	10 sec	Melee Range	80s
3	40	20 Energy	10 sec	Melee Range	2g
4	52	20 Energy	10 sec	Melee Range	4g 60s
5	60	20 Energy	10 sec	Melee Range	—

Ambush6 ranks · 18–58

Ranks of Ambush
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Range	Training
1	18	60 Energy	weapon + 28	Melee Range	29s
2	26	60 Energy	weapon + 40	Melee Range	60s
3	34	60 Energy	weapon + 50	Melee Range	1g 40s
4	42	60 Energy	weapon + 74	Melee Range	2g 70s
5	50	60 Energy	weapon + 92	Melee Range	3g 50s
6	58	60 Energy	weapon + 116	Melee Range	5g 20s

Rupture6 ranks · 20–60

Ranks of Rupture
Rank	Level	Cost	Damage	Range	Training
1	20	25 Energy	15 over 6 sec	Melee Range	30s
2	28	25 Energy	21 over 6 sec	Melee Range	80s
3	36	25 Energy	33 over 6 sec	Melee Range	1g 60s
4	44	25 Energy	48 over 6 sec	Melee Range	2g 90s
5	52	25 Energy	66 over 6 sec	Melee Range	4g 60s
6	60	25 Energy	105 over 6 sec	Melee Range	5g 40s

Vanish2 ranks · 22–42

Ranks of Vanish
Rank	Level	Cooldown	Training
1	22	5 min	40s
2	42	5 min	2g 70s

Kidney Shot2 ranks · 30–50

Ranks of Kidney Shot
Rank	Level	Cost	Cooldown	Range	Training
1	30	25 Energy	20 sec	Melee Range	1g
2	50	25 Energy	20 sec	Melee Range	3g 50s

Mutilate4 ranks · 30–60

Ranks of Mutilate
Rank	Level	Cost	Range
1	30	60 Energy	Melee Range
2	40	60 Energy	Melee Range
3	50	60 Energy	Melee Range
4	60	60 Energy	Melee Range

Which race should you pick?

Races that can be a Rogue

9 races can be a Rogue, 2 of them new in Forever. Hover or tap a racial to read what it does for this class.

Compare their racials →

Alliance5

Human
Starts in Elwynn Forest (Northshire Valley)Capital Stormwind CityPlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
Dwarf
Starts in Dun Morogh (Coldridge Valley)Capital IronforgePlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
Night Elf
Starts in Teldrassil (Shadowglen)Capital DarnassusPlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
Gnome
Starts in Dun Morogh (Coldridge Valley)Capital IronforgePlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
High Order SkyborneNew in Forever
Starts in Zephras IslePlan a trip here

Horde4

Orc
Starts in Durotar (Valley of Trials)Capital OrgrimmarPlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
Undead
Starts in Tirisfal Glades (Deathknell)Capital UndercityPlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
Troll
Starts in Durotar (Valley of Trials)Capital OrgrimmarPlan a trip hereClassic: may differ in Forever
Windshaper SkyborneNew in Forever
Starts in Zephras IslePlan a trip here

Checked against a second source

442 of 466 talents match by name, number of ranks and position in the tree, and 1,229 of 1,295 rank descriptions have exactly the same numbers. How we check

Show the difference

Most differences come from tuning made after build 1.60.1.69876; a few are values that the client does not contain.

Talent	Here (build 1.60.1.70245)	Second source (build 1.60.1.69876)
Mutilate Rogue · rank 1	Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 17 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.	Instantly attacks with both weapons for 75% weapon damage plus an additional 13 with each weapon. Damage increased by 20% against Poisoned targets. Awards 2 Combo Points.

For your Rogue

Before and now

Expose Armor (ES: Exponer armadura)

Setup (ES: Establecer)

Venom (ES: Veneno)

Assassination (ES: Asesinato)ESAsesinato

Combat (ES: Combate)ESCombate

Subtlety (ES: Sutileza)ESSutileza

Levels 1–10

Levels 11–20

Levels 21–30

Levels 31–40

Levels 41–50

Levels 51–60

Alliance5

Horde4

Assassination (ES: Asesinato)

Combat (ES: Combate)

Subtlety (ES: Sutileza)